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 =  coin& coinage
Veronica Valeanu
[19.Jul.09 15:21]
so - first there are 2 realities (like 2 circles/ holes)and a continuous come-and-go between them (in fact you are not a reality)

the truth is that
the biggest reality is the coin
& the coinage (the edge around, whatever links them)

 =  Indeed!
John Willy Kopperud
[19.Jul.09 15:25]
What will it be, Veronica? Heads or tails(tales)? Thank you very much for your
insightful comment and for the suggestion that triggered the continuation off!
Cheers from Willy

 =  didn't see the continuation
ion a
[20.Jul.09 08:03]
the interview

let's say
i'm not a real person
let's say
i'm a superstition
i live in the 2 dimensions
allowed by this book
and the only way i can escape
into the third dimension
is my reader's faith

i didn't expect that
- god lapsing into some syllogism
or weird metaphor
with me - just for asking

fine - i said -
but then
how do you escape into the 4th
and 5th and the n-th dimension

what hidden readers are out there?

gee -
i'm only responsible for this one
you see
you're the one out there
living in a 3 dimensional book
upper dimensions readers are your problem
not mine

 =  Problem, what problem, Ion?
John Willy Kopperud
[20.Jul.09 11:54]

Are there nonexistent readers out there someplace? Intriguing.
In this effort I was preoccupied with the barrier between "fiction"
and "reality." There are lots of ways of viewing this. Up through the
ages poets have transcended that barrier by the way of mirrors,
the surface(of rivers and oceans) and paintings. Some philosophers
and authors have given it a thought or two as well. What indeed is nature, reality and perception?
It's also quite intriguing that the ways of reading the original
text and the continuation differ as much as they do. Valeria seems
to look for a poetic way of percepting reality and fiction from
different angles. Is this of no interest to you? That said, I'm
frankly quite glad to see this exchange take place on Agonia.
Cheers from Willy

 =  psychogony(development of the mind/soul)
Veronica Valeanu
[20.Jul.09 15:14]
first of all that was only an exercise - not a work of art, i am sure Willy agrees

if a way of thinking is much too 2-D
only a 3-D awaited for process can welcome itself if it feels there is a need for it
if a 4-D one arrives to counteract, he will surely claim this territory and finds it missing. even if this entity finds loopholes in the whole construction, in fact it acts like a trigger, it opens the space- like your reaction.

you see, there are 2 opposite methods of inducing a limit-destroying complancency: a positive one in measures to be taken /and a negative one,
but the result is always the same

every "woman" inscribed here has a different god
the character -even if he acts like one, he is short of such ideals, remaining an in-between
the reader with his own god
the faith with its god
and in the end
a single space with a far-sighted god
even greater

cheers to you all

 =  V.V:
John Willy Kopperud
[20.Jul.09 17:37]
The "continuation" was an experiment and a further stroll up the path which I
began walking with the first poem. "Art" is the muse/goddess/mistress and plays
her part in here among with other words/concepts. You do offer an interesting
view of the path, Valeria. You're the one who put the challenge before me here
and because of that your comment should carry considerable weight.
Thanks again and cheers!

 =  no problem whatsoever
ion a
[20.Jul.09 18:41]
cheers Willy, we were all kind of playing on your original theme which (i think) was reversing roles between reality and some of its expressions, like art or emotion. the result was interesting, multiplying all kinds of mind echoes. like Veronica said, it acted like a trigger

 =  And that pleases me...
John Willy Kopperud
[20.Jul.09 19:06] read, Ion!
Cheers from Willy

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